Interesting theory to why Northern English club have been more successful than Southern English clubs ?

[BOBBY_S_HAMMERS]

I could be completely off the mark with this theory - but here goes.


A London team , no matter how good or shyte will find it x10 harder to win silverware in cup and league competition(s).

why ?

because we are surrounded by SO MANY other London clubs....its almost like after 3 games, we have 'another fierce London derby' to deal with it.


now, imagine playing between 6-12 London teams over a season - the intensity and physical demands in those fixtures takes the soul out of you.

This is why London clubs who have been involved in the title race, or have got off to good starts in the Premier League, slip up - because even if a London club sits at the top of the table after having played another London club away, the next fixture is up north - and its probably against some Northern lucky stars like Manchester United or Liverpool.

Suddenly we falter away at Anfield or Old Trafford, we get beat - beat bad and that defines our season.

And 2 fixtures later have a west/north/east London derby - and we drop points, neither gets the 3 points - both London clubs stalemate.

while that happens, guess what - surprise suprise the Scouse and Manc f***s have beaten their opposition well and are now stretching their leads at the top of the tables.

this is the story of English football.

The Northeners let us fight it out - and then deal with the leftovers from the aftermath.

they don't understand how passionate London derby games are, they never will - because they're lost in their own world half the the time.


No I'm not jelous because Northern Clubs are the most successful, but i do think that the # of London teams makes it harder for London clubs to race away at KEY stages of the League Campaign.

who agrees with this ? even slightly agrees ? or 'admits I have a point' ??

or who wants to be a typical sky sports glory hunting fan boy and tell me 'otherwise' ?

its true though what I speak is it not ?

[_x__EmoChick666__x]

O.K so then how come nearly all cockney derbies end in draws (whether it be 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 etc), unless of course a team 'needs the points'

E.G: Say West Ham are 2 points away from getting out of relegation on the final day of the season, and they were playing Arsenal who had nothing to play for, they are safely in the CL place but can't compete for 1st place...in that situation Arsenal would let West Ham win. But if Arsenal needed the points to get the PL title then they would win, but if both teams were safe and had nothing to play for that's when it would be a draw.

You'd never see that happen between Newcastle and Sunderland, if Sunderland we're in the relegation zone and needed 2 points to get out, then I can guarantee that it wouldn't matter if Sunderland needed the points to survive in the PL we'd still beat them, or vise versa if we were in that position.

xox

[K_Patel___IBWT_]

If there is one London Derby - its understandable but when Charlton was up there were 10 London Derbies for each team- it is too often to be passionate

[Perfectlyflawed]

I've heard this theory before and frankly it's largely nonsense and smacks of apologism.

Could you please explain the massive chasm that exists in European success between the North/Midlands and the South, even since European competition has been opened up in terms of its expansion? Pre-CL format, North/Midlands 8-0 South. Post-CL format, North/Midlands 3-0 South.

'A London team, no matter how GOOD or SHYTE' - that's just ridiculous.

You're not even taking into account the number of North-West derbies between United, Liverpool, Everton, City, Wigan, Blackburn, Stoke, Burnley and Bolton either. Four of those are quality sides and four of the others play very physical football which is extremely sapping. Some of those rivalries are very fierce, even if in a few of them the animosity is largely one-way (much like some of the London derbies you refer to, actually).

Sorry mate, I don't really see your point. Also, you state that you're 'not jelous' (sic), yet you also make a derogatory comment about United, 'Manc f***s' - I think the animosity also runs one way in this 'rivalry', still not over Incey I take it?

[Bazspur6]

slightly agree, also i think there are to many clubs in london, i think there are 18 in the football league. if that was only about 8 they would be much more succesfull and probably need stadiums that could hold 100.000.

[_BlueEyes_]

Or they could just be better at football.